alienEthOS Show #002 - Betrayal & Forgiveness
Show number two for your listening pleasure!
We talk about our experiences at Dragon*con and Copper*con and Discuss Betrayal and Forgiveness in Battlestar Galactica.
Come discuss the show in the forums!
Show Notes
Introduction
Who we are
Kevin introduces himself as the regular host. He is recording in Atlanta, GA.
Kade recording in Tempe, AZ, announces that he will be a permanent host now.
What the show is about
Kade explains that the show will examine ethical situations in sci-fi media such as in television, movies, books and comics.
News
Thank You
Kevin thanks Derek from Skepticality and his friend J. Aaron Robinson. He discusses the community nature of podcasting. Derek is doing better, and you can follow progress in their forums.
Show Progress
Kade and Kevin talk about the show’s downloads and thank the SF Signal and the Kick Ass Mystic Ninjas for linking us.
Theme Music
Kevin talks about the theme music and says it will mutate with each show.
Dragon*Con
Kevin talks about this time at Dragon*Con, meeting other podcasters and learning about the Georgia Skeptics Society.
Copper*Con
Kade had a blast at Copper*Con, he got lots of attention in his UtiliKilt. He met Robert Sawyer, author of
Starplex and Mindscan, as well as Greg Keyes author of the Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone Series (The Briar King, The Charnel Prince, The Blood Knight), the Age of Unreason Series (Newton’s Cannon, A Calculus of Angels, Empire of Unreason, The Shadows of God) and the Children of the Changeling series.
He then describes the “Battle Royal” event (*Update* The name of the panel was “Dual of the Fates: Battle Royal” hosted by author Jack Mangan), where Dr. Frank N. Furter from The Rocky Horror Picture Show won.
He had a great time with Michael and Evo of The Dragon Page, Summer from The Kick Ass Mystic Ninjas and Tee Morris the author of Morevi: The Chronicles of Rafe and Askana.
Slice of Sci Fi
Kade talks about what it was like to be a guest in the studio for Slice of Sci Fi.
Discussion
Format of the show
Kade outlines the show format for new listeners.
Disclaimer
Kevin explains our disclaimers.
- We are not experts, we do not hold degrees specific to our topic so make your own decisions.
- The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of your hosts. We are attempting to simply explore the issue from all sides, so one or both of us will often play devil’s advocate.
- Spoiler alert! The nature of the show requires that we talk about the events in detail so if you hate spoilers and are not familiar with the material please pause us and go watch or read the source.
Introduction of topic
Topic
Kade tells us that our topic is Betrayal and Forgiveness, and that we’ll be focusing on forgiveness more because we already covered betrayal mostly in the previous show.
Source
We are pulling from Battlestar Galactica again.
Discussion of topic
Source
Kade recaps the various story lines covered in alienEthOS show #001 with the addition of Helo’s seeming betrayal by sleeping with the enemy.
Kevin then explores the new insights into Commander Adama’s reasons for reuniting with those that left to follow the President and Kade introduces the idea of forgiveness as a necessary expediency.
Connections
We read a quote that Miscatonic left in our forums that introduces the idea that there are many reasons to forgive.
Kevin and Kade explore Hilary Clinton’s reasons for reconciling with her husband former President Bill Clinton.
Kade summaries Kari’s story of betrayal also left in our Forums. Kari is introduced as the host of “The Signal”.
Kevin talks about his own story of betrayal and forgiveness dealing with his one of his good friends.
Kade and Kevin decide to talk about Starbuck’s history with Commander Adama’s son and Apollo’s brother Zack and how that also illustrates betrayal and forgiveness.
Concluding statements
Kade
Kade talks about forgiveness as a part of the greater context of altruism. He explores the idea of altruism being genetically based instead of a something more abstract. He offers the books Origins of Virtue and The Red Queen by author Matt Ridley for further information.
Kevin
Kevin explores the various reasons people might have to forgive by using the framework of Kohlberg’s stages of moral development and debates the existence of the highest stage. Kevin misquotes Alfred Lord Tennyson’s Charge of the Light Brigade “Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do and die:”.
Next Show Topic
Kade introduces the next show topic as Honorable Crime. Is it right to commit crimes against an opressive system? He uses Star Wars’ Evil Empire as an example.
Kevin introduces the source as Serenity/Firefly and people are encourage to go see the movie and watch the shows. You can get the dvds here.
Kade announces that Kari from “The Signal” will be attempting to join us for the next show!
Charity of the Month
The chairty of the month is stil The Red Cross, Kevin and Kade talk about progress in New Orleans and Kade speaks of his worry for loved ones in the area.
Wrap Up
Transcripts
Kevin announces that there will eventually be a transcript availiable for each show.
Legal-ease
The music you heard in the intro was ‘QuAd DaMaGe’ by Intrabyte from the PodShow Podsafe Music Network.